38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

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38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by TexasTed on Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:34 pm

Hello, I am new to reloading, Really liked ATGRELOADING's squaredeal b youtube tutorial (the best I have seen). I just ordered a dillon square deal b. One reason was because it was supposedly "preset at the factory" (whatever that means.) Anyhow a friend said he was looking at a dillion square deal b and the seller indicated he would dial it in for either the 38/or 357 for the buyer. Question? what does he mean by this statement? Is there some setting difference between the 38 special and the 357? What gets changed? How do you do it?
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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by tripples on Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:51 pm

Being that the 357 is a longer case the dies will need to be backed out as opposed to the setting for 38spl.

As far as the dies for the caliber, they are the same between 38 and 357. RCBS and others sell spacers that you can install between the die lock ring and press so you don't have to adjust your dies these spacers are for all dies except Dillon sdb, they may have there own spacers. I'm not real familiar with the sdb dies (other than they only fit the sdb press) he may either be adjusting the dies or spacing them accordingly if in fact Dillon makes such a spacer.


Last edited by tripples on Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:10 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : guess i wasnt clear enough in the origional post.)

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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by george457d on Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:18 am

Texas Ted ,
What firearm's have you shot ?
What reloading manual's do you have ?
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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by Reload3006 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:03 am

tripples wrote:Being that the 357 is a longer case the dies will need to be backed out as opposed to the setting for 38spl.

As far as the dies, they are the same. RCBS and others sell spacers that you can install between the die lock ring and press so you don't have to adjust your dies. I'm not real familiar with the sdb dies (other than they only fit the sdb press) he may either be adjusting the dies or spacing them accordingly.
That is true for most presses but not for the square deal. The Square deal B is a press unto its self and only uses Square deal dies. The bullet seating die and the powder die will have to be raised up for 357 and lowered for 38spl the and the crimp die will have to be compensated for that is done but the tool head allowing the dies to raise up
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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by tripples on Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:24 pm

Reload, I edited my first post to make it more clear about the dies. I do know that Dillon sdb dies will not fit a standard 7/8x14 thread press and Dillon sdb press will not accept standard 7/8x14 dies.

Can you look over my edited post and see if it is clear? The last thing I want to do is confuse or mislead an undereducated person or someone who is just getting started in reloading about weather or not they can get spacers to move the dies up.

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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by Reload3006 on Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:06 pm

Looks good to me
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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by george457d on Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:13 am

It sure would be nice ,if that dude sell'n the sdb were to look over his shoulder for his 1st box of primers (100rd)
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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by Daywalker on Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:03 am

All great information given. I have not bought my dies for the caliber stated as of yet. I would love to do a video showing what others have explained. Just a simple reset of the dies for the caliber. Lower the dies for the special, raise the dies for the magnum. When you purchase the press new, Dillon will install the dies so that the press is out of the box ready aka, preset. They even load a dead round for you to examen. Hope all of the information given so far from everyone helps. Keep asking, we are glad to lend a hand friend.

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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by bombnut on Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:06 pm

I think my RCBS 38/357 dies came with a spacer to screw on for just that reason...I'll have to look.
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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by 2Amendrules on Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:29 pm

Yes, RCBS dies use a spacer to raise the dies for 357 mag.

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Re: 38/357 differences for Square Deal B?

Post by B W M on Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:01 pm

It is easy to make your own spacer. I made one out of a flat washer.

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