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Post by RichBirdHunter on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:20 pm

A buddy wants to load 45 GAP, do I use 45ACP dies? Any tricks to loading GAP?
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by Daywalker on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:26 pm

Yes 45 acp dies also loads 45 gap. Tricks? I could not tell you. I have never loaded for a gap...

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Re: 45 GAP

Post by XbonesX on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:56 pm

GAP brass is hard to find and expensive I've heard. However, if you collect a bunch of indoor range brass you will find a bunch of the WIN NT and FED NT 45 ACP cases. Most have the small primer pocket which is what the GAP uses. You will have to trim a lot off the case to get down to the GAP case length though.

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Re: 45 GAP

Post by badjeep02 on Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:02 pm

Not all 45acp dies will load 45gap. Lee is one of them, but RCBS will work.
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by RichBirdHunter on Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:50 pm

Yep I'm using RCBS
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by fletch_medic on Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:34 pm

XbonesX wrote:GAP brass is hard to find and expensive I've heard. However, if you collect a bunch of indoor range brass you will find a bunch of the WIN NT and FED NT 45 ACP cases. Most have the small primer pocket which is what the GAP uses. You will have to trim a lot off the case to get down to the GAP case length though.

I hate those stupid "NT" cases. I normally throw those away, if you can use them I will start keeping them.
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by badjeep02 on Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:24 pm

I’m not totally certain on this but I think 45gap casings have a stronger web than 45acp. I would look more into that before using 45acp brass as a substitute. I do know that gap runs at a higher pressure. My friend just gave me a bag of 45acp brass with the small pistol primers. They all seem to be Blazer though. I’m not sure what NT means but they are not marked as such. I was happy to take them considering I’m out of large pistol primes.
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Post by notenoughguns on Thu Feb 03, 2011 4:54 pm

badjeep02 wrote:Not all 45acp dies will load 45gap. Lee is one of them, but RCBS will work.
+1 on that , ended up buying another set of dies , I'm a Lee man .

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Re: 45 GAP

Post by XbonesX on Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:56 pm

NT stands for Non-Toxic, that's why you normally find them at the indoor range.

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Re: 45 GAP

Post by Mohunter on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:09 pm

What is so different about that brass that makes it special? Non toxic?
I thought brass was brass and it was all non toxic? I didn't know it came in different flavors. Very Happy
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by fletch_medic on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:34 pm

It is the primers..... normal primers contain a small amount of lead. The NT ones I guess don't.... that is why you are supposed to shoot in a ventilated area and the "NT" cases are so common at indoor ranges.
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by Mohunter on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:39 pm

My gosh, it just never ends does it? No
Isn't that what the exhaust fans are for at an indoor range? Rolling Eyes
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by RichBirdHunter on Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:50 pm

fletch_medic wrote:
XbonesX wrote:GAP brass is hard to find and expensive I've heard. However, if you collect a bunch of indoor range brass you will find a bunch of the WIN NT and FED NT 45 ACP cases. Most have the small primer pocket which is what the GAP uses. You will have to trim a lot off the case to get down to the GAP case length though.

I hate those stupid "NT" cases. I normally throw those away, if you can use them I will start keeping them.

Yes, please
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Re: 45 GAP

Post by BigAgitator on Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:22 pm

I was thinking of getting into loading GAP for my friend. He's got an XD45. It's a pretty nice piece. I like the round but I've never fired ACP so I have no basis for comparison.

From what I've read (extensively) is that you can use ACP dies just like a 357 shares dies with 38special and 44special shares dies with 44Rem mag. However, according to some, GAP dies cannot be used for ACP (too short).

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