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Re: 45 swage dies

Post by scorge30 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:30 pm

FWIW I had an old set of Herter's dies that made half-jacketed bullets very similar to the CH4D 101 dies.

I really liked the dies and it made fine dies until some dirt ball stole them.

I have a set of 105 .430 dies on order from CH4D whenever they get caught up.
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Re: 45 swage dies

Post by Travis on Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:16 am

dartfreak75 wrote:lol good point http://www.hawkbullets.com/swage-it.htm Spew Coffee

i called this fella he said his prices where 154.00 and he sells mostly on ebay. i am talking to him about doing a video so we all can see how these dies work compared to the ch4d dies. the price seems high but i have yet to see how they work. i am awaiting a returned email about video and more info.
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Re: 45 swage dies

Post by hawcer on Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:42 am

How did they go from $50 to $154?

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Post by dartfreak75 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 9:21 am

i dont know i cant figure it out eithor i was lookiing at them on ebay i think i even posted a link then a couple days later i found these
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Post by Travis on Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:22 pm

hawcer wrote:How did they go from $50 to $154?

i ask the same ??????? about price im waiting to hear back
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Post by scorge30 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 3:32 pm

I have been watching these on Fleabay for sometime now as I have been waiting for some reviews or clearer instructions before I bite.

I know that the dies have slowly increased in price like everything else has as the cost of general things has risen.

Maybe he has not updated his prices? But $50 is surely a tempting amount for me, much better than $154.
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Post by dartfreak75 on Sun Mar 13, 2011 10:43 pm

yea i seen that listing and i thought i had to be missing something wonder why he has them listed for 50 in his website?
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Re: 45 swage dies

Post by uncleskippy on Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:24 am

Daywalker,

Do you trim your 40S&W cases for your swaged 45s?

If so, what do you trim them down to?

Thanks


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Post by Daywalker on Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:44 pm

I do trim them down for my 45's. I do not have any of my cases left as I sent them along with the dies.

Dart, what trim length are your 40's when trimming them down to 45?

I do know that I basically culled all my cases by headstamp, took the common weight of combined cases, and then got my cores all even as possible. When weighed, and looking for the weight I wanted, I took one case and trimmed a little at a time until combined case and core equal the weight I was looking for.

Hope that helps

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Re: 45 swage dies

Post by randmplumbingllc on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:34 am

.740, with a 158 gr. core, gives me a 225-230 gr. bullet, depending on what lead source I use (pure, WW, range lead, etc.

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Post by dartfreak75 on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:32 am

im not exactly sure il have to measure il get back to you with a 158 grain core they come out at 220! so mine must be shorter than .740
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Post by randmplumbingllc on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:56 am

dartfreak75 wrote:im not exactly sure il have to measure il get back to you with a 158 grain core they come out at 220! so mine must be shorter than .740

Not really....depends on what .40 brass you are using. More difference in weight , by head stamp, then most people think. Weigh a few and you will see what I mean.

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Post by dartfreak75 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:23 pm

yea thats true im not sure what my head stamps are never really paid attention i just weight the bullets one by one as seperate them by weight most are 220-222 range iv had a few come out at 225-228 but that was with WW which i wont do again just wanted to try them but like everyone says they are way to hard!
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Post by Daywalker on Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:37 pm

dartfreak75 wrote:yea thats true im not sure what my head stamps are never really paid attention i just weight the bullets one by one as seperate them by weight most are 220-222 range iv had a few come out at 225-228 but that was with WW which i wont do again just wanted to try them but like everyone says they are way to hard!

With the punches you have, you can do WW. The stock punches, not so much. However, with that said, just because you can, does not really mean it is a good thing. The die itself is still 12L14 no matter how you slice it. Using WW won't split the die, well, I won't say that it will not happen, however, WW will cause the dies to wear alot faster than using pure soft lead.

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Post by dartfreak75 on Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:48 pm

yea that and i thought we where gonna rip the press of the bench lol we done 3 or 4 using WW and the wood in the bench was popping and cracking wasnt good whenever i get my press and set it up im gonna go heavy
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Re: 45 swage dies

Post by randmplumbingllc on Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:02 pm

dartfreak75 wrote:yea thats true im not sure what my head stamps are never really paid attention i just weight the bullets one by one as seperate them by weight most are 220-222 range iv had a few come out at 225-228 but that was with WW which i wont do again just wanted to try them but like everyone says they are way to hard!

I find that if I seperate by head stamp, that all the bullets are pretty much +/- 1-2 grains. That might save you from weighing each bullet, one by one.

Winchester and Speer appear to be in the 70ish gr, while Federal are around 66 gr. or so (untrimmed). So, you are talking about approx. 5 gr difference. That does no take into account the difference in your cores.

I am sure you already know this, but WW's are much softer, if air cooled and used after the first few days of casting them.

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