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Post by dartfreak75 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:57 am

does this look like a good swaging press to yall??
http://cgi.ebay.com/Pacific-reloading-Press-/330538710188?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf5a474ac#ht_500wt_949
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Post by Reload3006 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:05 am

its a reloading press but i think it looks beefy enough to swage with
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Post by hawcer on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:08 am

Not sure what model it is....no pic is showing up for me.

Honestly...I'd stick with a Rockchucker or at least a Lyman Crusher...they are both made with strong linkage and rams(the RC has a bit heavier handle)...and both press's link pin bosses are heavy duty unlike other presses that pin right up next to the ram.

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Post by Daywalker on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:13 am

I am getting ready to order a refurbished Lee Classic Cast to swage on along side my rock chucker..

I am going to have steel linkages made for it so it will be one heck of a swage press. I mean, the body is made from melted down railroad ties, thats got to be strong!! LOL

As far as that pacific, it may be strong enough, I have no knowledge about it, for me tho, I think an O press instead of a C press would be the way to go. More structure integrity is what I am thinking..

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Post by dartfreak75 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:22 am

yea im gonna make me some steel linkages for mine and try it if it dont work i get il get another press i liek that pasifice id like to have it for resizing rifle brass it has the auto prime arm i could get a tube and use it for resizing and primeing im gonna watch it and see what i can get it for!
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Post by Reload3006 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:26 am

lol I agree with everyone. A whole lot depends on how and what you swage. IMO most presses could handle 22cal bullets. but the bigger they get the more pressure is required and the stronger the press needs to be. I know they cost a lot of money. with the exception of Dr. Blackmons press. But really at a little over 400 the walnut hill press is not that far out of line. for example say you get a rockchucker. 150. and you start to swage 44 and 45 cal bullets with it and you break it there is almost half a walnut hill. not saying you will but there is a lot of pressure being developed during swagging and there are plenty of stories out there of Rockchuckers being broken Fore Warned is Warned
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Post by RichBirdHunter on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:30 am

The stroke of the ram looks short from the pictures I see. Will you have enough room too work? Over all it seems small, but that may mean its stronger too
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Post by dartfreak75 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:34 am

that reload ok what is the most common part to fail during swaging the linkages the ram or the frame i know im gonna have to use steel linkages i got some plan to make a set of steel toggles but will the ram and frame hold up? im swaging 45s btw also how much is dr blackmans press?
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Post by Reload3006 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:38 am

Dr Blackmon fixed part of the problem with is conversion kit. and that is the collapsing of the t slot on the ram. Richard Corbin says that the linkages are too week even on the RCBS that is why he doesn't offer Reloading press dies anymore. I have even seen pictures of Lee and RCBS presses broken in the O frame.
the catalog I have says 150. for the BSSP press.
lol sorry I keep editing this reply.
Talk to BillArrington he has one I dont know if you can reload on the bssp or if it is a swage only press
you can also save a little money one the sea girt press from Richard Corbin
but you cant reload on it. The walnut hill you can reload on as well as swage and I have to say It is great to reload on too.
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Post by Daywalker on Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:46 am

Yea the BSSP press is a great price if you plan on using non standard 7/8-14 dies to swage with.

I do plan on in the near future purchasing the BSSP Press. Thinking about soley using the Lee for swaging using regular dies and converting the Rock Chucker for use with blackmon dies. Would like to make a ram and stuff but would prob need blackmons ram and other items to get the measurements and stuff from. Oh the projects we commit ourselves to LOL

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Post by hawcer on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:13 am

put it this way...if you have to stand on the press handle or install a longer cheater handle...you prolly need a a bigger press or somethings going to give.

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Post by dartfreak75 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:21 am

ok now im confused bssp is blackman right? so corbin dies want work in a loading press? what was the dies that ammosmith had that had the bottom punch that slide in the shell holder wasnt that corbins? also i cant find anything online about bssp can someone send me a link or something?
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Post by Reload3006 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:25 am

dartfreak75 wrote:ok now im confused bssp is blackman right? so corbin dies want work in a loading press? what was the dies that ammosmith had that had the bottom punch that slide in the shell holder wasnt that corbins? also i cant find anything online about bssp can someone send me a link or something?
ammo smith was using CH4d dies same as tommy.
he also has Corbin MFG csp2 mega mite press. different dies and very expensive.
Corbin mfg does sell reloading press dies but they are OMG expensive
Richard Corbin is Dave Corbins' brother. but he has his own company now RCE LLC
Richard does not offer Reloading press dies anymore.
Yes the BSSP press is Dr Blackmons
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Post by dartfreak75 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:37 am

oh so rce llc and corbin mfg is not the same company? that makes since cause there are like 3 different corbin websites
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Post by Reload3006 on Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:42 am

thats right two different companies.
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Post by dartfreak75 on Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:52 pm

do yall think the rcbs jr3 press would be suffacant for swaging i found one on ebay im thinking of bidding on!
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Post by dartfreak75 on Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:52 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rcbs-Press-JR-3-/180638937886?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a0eeb731e#ht_500wt_949
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Post by Daywalker on Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:00 pm

Yep that would work just fine. Prob is, unless your really really lucky, you won't get one for under 75.00 and to get it at 75.00 would getting lucky too LOL...

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Post by hawcer on Mon Mar 14, 2011 1:37 pm

I don't know how many rockchuckers I bid on before I finally won one that I could afford.

Also, make your search really general, like "rcbs press"....or just "rcbs" under the reloading presses sub-catagory. You'll sometimes come across items with miss-spelling or other errors that doesn't allow them to come up in a specific search....so only a few guys might ever see it Wink

Heck...I've even searched for "rusty" in the reloading presses catagory Smile

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Post by dartfreak75 on Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:31 pm

yea i just typed in presses not even looking brands sepecific lol
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Post by dartfreak75 on Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:37 pm

hey guys i found a herters superduty press does anyone know if they have the 7/8 x 14 threads and normal shell holder like most modern press use or not i may get it to swage with looks very heavy duty!
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Post by dartfreak75 on Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:40 pm

never mind i just found out they dont use standard shell holders!
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Post by ar3006 on Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:43 pm

swaging press on E-Bay, look's like a seagate R Corbon brand.

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Post by ar3006 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:06 pm

I have a rockchucket press to swage with , i use corbon econo dies 9mm and swaget-it dies 9mm, i also use hurter dies 38 spl / 357 that i have used for years,

Darn thr other day i tryed to put in an old shell holder i used befor in the press and it would not fit, i think the ram has been crushed from high pressure.

I have a set of new rcbs shell holders and thay fit????.

is theare a fix for a crushed shell holder slot. i can still use the dies and punch that i have with no truble,

i have a DR Blackmon 223 setup on order, i know it comes with a new ram, i hope the ram is stronger then the original rockchucker
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Post by Sasquatch-1 on Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:51 am

This is a direct quote from RCBS on line manuel for the RC Supreme or 4 which ever you prefer:

INTRODUCTION
The Rock Chucker Supreme Press has been designed specifically for heavy-duty reloading, case forming, and bullet swaging. It is engineered to handle the largest and longest magnums down to .17 caliber. The compound leverage system of the Rock Chucker Supreme Press can fulllength resize cases with less effort than other presses neck size. Using RCBS Case Forming Dies
this press will form .30-06 cases into many other calibers
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Now from practcal experience, the left side link failed on mine. Now mind you this was within the first 40 bullets I swaged. I do weigh over 370lbs and was putting a little weight (actually not a lot, wasn't standing just a little extra umph) into it at the time. RCBS replace the link with no questions asked. The guy on the phone sounded truely amazed that I had broke the press and suggested that it may have been dropped at some point but was not insinuating that I dropped it.
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