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Post by Hughie on Fri May 06, 2011 11:22 pm

Ok Dart and myself swaged some .45 boolits tonight it was my first swageing experience . I enjoyed it something new to learn .We used my RCBS press its a little heavyer than his but still need a little more beef in the press but we swaged a few. Dart will post some pics I am sure as soon as he can find his phone.
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Post by dartfreak75 on Sat May 07, 2011 12:04 am

ok got some pics i had a blast i was very happy with the results i got to get a press soon i got some big ideas i want to try but here is what i got so far!



the one on the far left is a flat point we where trying to simulate some 38 spl dad had it turned out nice!

hollow points


here is the lead i got from ebay!
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Post by Daywalker on Sat May 07, 2011 12:06 am

Looking good looking good!!! Coming out to .451??? Now the fun part, load developing for them puppies...

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Post by Reload3006 on Sat May 07, 2011 12:25 am

Those look great welcome to the swaging club it's a fun place to be cheers
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Post by dartfreak75 on Sat May 07, 2011 2:16 am


id like to give a special thanks to daywalker for helping me get started thanks alot bro! these are weighing in around 227-229 grains im thinking about 5.3 grains of unique should do pretty good that is the same load i use for my 230 grain cast bullets and they shoot and feed great what do yall think any load reconmindations?
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Post by Joe on Sat May 07, 2011 2:57 am

Hey Daywalker. Are you famous or something? Keep it up sir. Help and help some more.

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Post by dartfreak75 on Sat May 07, 2011 4:01 am

Yea he is pretty famous around these parts lol he is over generous he helped me get started casting and now swaging he has been a huge help
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Post by notenoughguns on Sat May 07, 2011 12:56 pm

What length did you trim your cases to and what weight cases ? Good looking bullets by the way .

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Post by hawcer on Sat May 07, 2011 4:13 pm

Looking good. They will only get better with time Smile

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Post by kcatto on Sat May 07, 2011 4:20 pm

Those turned out nice.... please let us know how they shoot....
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Post by eagle60 on Sat May 07, 2011 8:33 pm

Very nice Dart! Anxious to see how they fly Smile
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Post by dartfreak75 on Sun May 08, 2011 12:57 am

Thanks guys I but I can't take no credit for these all the case prep was done by daywalker and dad ( hughie ) helped me set up the dies we are learning together I have to admit they are very forgiving we messed up a few and they still come out nice I'm gonna do some more playing with my die setup get it right and then I got some big ideas
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Post by dartfreak75 on Sun May 08, 2011 1:00 am

Sorry day didn't see your post yea there coming out to 451 some of the where like 450.5 but I think they will be ok
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Post by kcatto on Sun May 08, 2011 1:31 am

looking at them again.... they are still nice as can be.... good job guys...
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Post by algunjunkie on Mon May 09, 2011 12:46 pm

not too bad, not too bad at all

The weight variation will get smaller with practice and pretty soon your bullets will rival anything on the market. Keep it and welcome to the dark side.

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Post by Rick459 on Mon May 09, 2011 1:08 pm

Hughie,
i have those same dies. not only can you make jacketed .45acp, but i am also taking my cast 225 grn. RN from a RCBS mold and making them into HP. they shoot real nice.
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Post by Hughie on Tue May 10, 2011 9:55 pm

Looking good I like those makes a nice bullet Very Happy
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Post by dartfreak75 on Wed May 11, 2011 8:04 am

hey thats cool im gonna have to try that with my truncated cone cast bullets! we made a hollow point out of a full metal jacket factory bullet it worked pretty good il try to get some pics of that i got some federals laying around il pull a few and hollow point them and take some pics!
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Post by kcatto on Wed May 11, 2011 10:42 am

I am really interested in seeing the FMJ, made into hollow points....
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Post by Reload3006 on Wed May 11, 2011 10:45 am

kcatto wrote:I am really interested in seeing the FMJ, made into hollow points....
I am as well. Are you turning it upside down and using the open base to form into a hollow point or piercing the jacket on the nose? I have turned FMJ 9mms around on my lead bullet die set but I dont have the set up to make Hps.
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Post by kcatto on Wed May 11, 2011 11:46 am

I might have the opportunity to purchase 5000 FMJ's 45.acp.... it would be nice to make half them all hollow points....

Did you use the Ch4d dies in the picture to make FMJ into hollow points????
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Post by Rick459 on Wed May 11, 2011 11:59 am

i found that with forming round nose lead into hollow points you have to lube the bullet first before running them into the CH4d dies or you will lose the lube grove.
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Post by Daywalker on Wed May 11, 2011 1:30 pm

Here is a little story behind this. Back when I was reloading, I started out with rifle. When I got my 1911, I had not loaded handgun before. I bought 230 grain FMJ RN for it. When I loaded it, there was a bulge in the case on every round that I loaded. I had read somewhere to take the decapping pin out of the FL die and run the round back up into it to take out the bulge.

Yes it worked, but now the bullets were smaller in diameter and would not stay in the case. So I had put them up for a rainy day or just to have because I hated to throw them away.

When I got my CH4D dies to swage 45's, I had some playing around. I have not loaded these up yet, however, those once 230 FMJ that were too small in diameter are now 230 HP FMJ at the right diameter of .451

Ran them up into the die nose first and it formed the HP into the nose. The base on these are not open base.










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Post by Daywalker on Wed May 11, 2011 1:33 pm

Looking back, I prob could have moved the die down some to give it more of an Ogive.

I prob would not recommend this with the stock ch4d punches as those are very soft and bends very easily. I had these punches made from grade 8 bolts.

While swaging into 40 s&w cases, my stock punches bent and just wasn't worth it...

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Post by kcatto on Wed May 11, 2011 11:27 pm

thanks tommy!!!!

I knew I had seen someone do that before.... make hollow points out of cheap FMJ's

you are the man!!! thanks again...
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