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Post by kcatto on Thu May 19, 2011 12:22 am

does anyone know where I can find a main spring for a armi san marco 44 dragoon pistol....

it is a copy of the 2nd model dragoon in 44 cal....


I am pretty new to wrenching on old blackpowder pistols... if fact this is the first one...
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Post by Rick459 on Thu May 19, 2011 3:03 am

this guy might still have the main spring
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=444358
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Post by kcatto on Thu May 19, 2011 4:34 am

thank you SO much..... I will let you know how it goes....

thanks again.... thumbs up for you!!!!!
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Post by hawcer on Thu May 19, 2011 8:24 am

Have you checked with Numrich(gun parts corp)?

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Post by kcatto on Thu May 19, 2011 8:45 am

Numrich was the first place I checked.... I have all ready checked all the usual places....
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Post by hawcer on Thu May 19, 2011 9:29 am

Have you tried this place?

http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/shopdisplayproducts.asp?id=78&cat=ASM+2nd+Model+Dragoon

I wonder if a main spring from a Uberti would work...since they are all copies of the same Colt Dragoon.

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Post by kcatto on Thu May 19, 2011 4:17 pm

I thought about using the uberti but everyone I spoke to says it will not fit????

VTI did not have the one I needed.... they list it on their site but had none in stock....


the guy sold all the parts he had on the firing line.... dang i was too slow...


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Post by hawcer on Thu May 19, 2011 4:22 pm

That sucks....You might end up making one to fit from another manufacturer. I've never played around with the old Colt BP's....I'm a remington 1858 fan.

I sold my 1858 to fund another project. Now I'm looking for a 1858 with a 5-1/2 barrel to convert to 45LC.

I hope you can find what you need...BP revolvers are a blast in more than one way Smile

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Post by kcatto on Thu May 19, 2011 5:20 pm

yeah that is what i was thinking..... fabing one up from another spring...

I really like the conversion cylinders to go from the blackpowder to center fire 45lc for these but dang they are expensive!!!!

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Post by hawcer on Thu May 19, 2011 5:32 pm

Yeah the cyclinders are not worth it if you buy a bp gun and a cyclinder to convert it. But if you already have the gun....it's not so bad.

Taylor now sells pre-converted revolvers and I think Cimarron(sp) does too.

They can be found for under $500 ready to go in multiple calibers...from 38 special, 45LC and even 44-20.

I'm looking into a 38special 1858....I'm waiting to hear back on the bore specs on the barrels...since they were originally 36 calibers.

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Post by kcatto on Thu May 19, 2011 6:12 pm

do you have a link to the Taylor???? i have only really dealt with dixie gun works for blackpowder stuff and they do not have this part either.....

the conversion cylinder for my dragoon was like $250.00

seems like a lot for a pistol i originally spent $150.00 on....
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Post by wallenba on Thu May 19, 2011 7:53 pm

Could it be the same as the Walker Colt? Numrich has some of the Armi San Marco gun parts. http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Products.aspx?catid=9079
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Post by kcatto on Thu May 19, 2011 8:22 pm

no I am gonna order the mainspring for the uberti.... they look identical.... if it long I can shorten it....
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Post by hawcer on Fri May 20, 2011 12:39 am

kcatto wrote:do you have a link to the Taylor???? i have only really dealt with dixie gun works for blackpowder stuff and they do not have this part either.....

the conversion cylinder for my dragoon was like $250.00

seems like a lot for a pistol i originally spent $150.00 on....

http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/index.tpl

Take a look at their 1871-1872 open top Colt revolvers. Multiple calibers available on these too....and they originally are the first cartridge guns colt made, so not conversions done on these babies.

http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cfOpenTop.tpl

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Post by kcatto on Fri May 20, 2011 2:15 am

now dang!!!! those are seriously nice..... and very reasonable in price... thank you for the awesome link and the new wish list item for me....
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Post by hawcer on Tue May 24, 2011 9:40 am

I heard back from Taylors on their 38sp conversion pistols. They are barreled for 38 special not the original 36cal....that's a plus.

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Post by kcatto on Tue May 24, 2011 11:16 am

that is so awesome.... sounds like a deal.... 38spl... cheaper and plentiful...
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